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18 March 2011, 09:34

Hi people.

I like my Tom Tom very much, but there is one thing that irritates me. We all know the "safety screen" is activated when you start moving when the device is docked on a bike docking station. I do not like this eather, but ok. Let that be. I am able to select one of the buttons from a menue to have present on this menu. So far so good. When I plan a route with several way-points, I have to pass every waypoint very close for the devise to register the way-point as "visited". If not, I will be told to turn arround and go back until I stop my bike, get the full meny, and select "way-point visited". It is very normal to select a city center as way-point, but you normally pass the city in the outskirts. Hence you have not passed the way-point close enough. I have tried to run this problem through Tom Tom support, telling them the following: Is it possible to program the button  "way-point visited" so that it is one of the buttons that I can select for the safety screen"? Then I could with one push select next way-point instead. Tom Tom do not seem to understand why this is necessary, and I am told they have no plans to do this small change in the programming.

Have anyone else experienced the same problem? If so I erge you all to copy my explenation and sent to Tom Tom support. I think when several people ask for the same thing they will listen.

Marked as answer: kumo on 18 March 2011, 13:57

Oh-key, do-key:

Overleap can be found >>>here<<<.

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    18 March 2011, 12:28

    > It is very normal to select a city center as way-point, but you normally pass the city in the outskirts.

     

    If you mark a specific point at the map or a address, you must be very close to this point to get it marked as "visited".

    But there is a feature: If you select a city center, the waypoint is marked as "visited" in a larger distance. Try it out.

     

    > Then I could with one push select next way-point instead.

     

    Joghurt, member of a large german forum, provides a solution with his tool "Overleap". I won't post the link here, since this is a official TomTom forum and Joghurts tool is no official TomTom approved software. But Google will help you soon.

    Overleap provides a button at the main screen. It definitively works at Rider and Rider 2nd.

    Rider 2nd, Rider 2013, VIA 125 Live, GO 1000 Live
  • Kenneth

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    18 March 2011, 13:33

    Hi kumo - you're welcome to post the link.


     


    Thanks,


    Kenneth

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    18 March 2011, 13:57

    Oh-key, do-key:

    Overleap can be found >>>here<<<.

    Rider 2nd, Rider 2013, VIA 125 Live, GO 1000 Live
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    20 March 2011, 21:03

    Thank you guys.

    I will try to navigate through that ling and try to find out.

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    21 March 2011, 10:15

    I have been in contact with Joghurt, and will download his software today.

    He also told me that the function "scip to next waypoint" that can be chosen among the optional buttons in the "safe drive mode" has been implemented in the new Rider Urban. I think Tom Tom also could have done this minor change for Rider 2nd edition, but there you go. They obviesly want people to scrap a perfectly fine working devise (and buy a new one) just to get this option. Well, not me. The result is of cource that I have to implement unauthorized software, or mask one of the pins on my MC mount that makes the Safe meny appear.

    It`s a pity.

     

    Is it no way that the moderators on this forum can influence Tom Tom to re-consider? Little me was obviously not enough. The message from Tom Tom was that Support had been in contact with the programmers, and the answer was NO.

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    21 March 2011, 11:52

    I have download and used "Overleap" on my RIder 1 and it works great.

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    5 April 2011, 14:24

    The direct link to Overleap is this: http://gps.dg4sfw.de/?overleap


    To install it, just connect your TomTom to your computer, wait 'till that orange/white screen comes up, then visit my webiste http://gps.dg4sfw.de/?overleap (you will need to allow your browser to execute my installation applet on the first time) and click the big "install/uninstall"-button.
    It will then search for your TomTom and should display its serial number (and type, if not a 100x) and you can select "install". If it can't find your TomTom on the frist try, try "search".

    If you then click "install" it will install my Overleap-plugin onto your TomTom.

    After it is done, wait five seconds then disconnect your TomTom safely (on Windows use the little green remove-hardware-safely-arrow in your tray on the bottom right, next to your clock).

    By the way: If you want to remove the plugin do everything the same way but instead of "install" there will be an "uninstall"-button.

    If your then disconnect your USB-cable your TomTom should boot and you should see the overleap-button in the upper part of your navigation screen.

    Beware: It will only work if you have a planned itinerary and your TomTom knows where it is! Does not work so good on the balcony and such...

    Have fun! :)

    Oh, and if you don't like the position of the button you can change that by editing the file "overleap.cfg" in the "Overleap"-directory on your TomTom using a normal text-editor.

    And if you don't like the button or want a semi- or real transparent button, check out http://raw.dg4sfw.de/overleap/ Just download the package you want by clicking on the button you like, unpack it and throw the four files in it into the Overleap-directory, overwriting the files within.
    The original button is also on that page. ;)
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    5 April 2011, 14:39

    Oh, and please be aware that this is NOT a tool made by TomTom but by me as a sole fan of their stuff who is not working for them, so PLEASE DO NOT bother them with support questions!
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    9 April 2011, 06:19

    Now if you can perform magic and turn my 930 into a gps for trucks that to would be impressive

     

    Thanks for the overleap button

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    5 June 2012, 23:36

    Hi Joghurt...and others!

     

    This is exactly the problem I've been having ....for YEARS! Gave up using the very useful Itineraries because of it but recently decided to revisit them - so to speak.

     

    So, Overleap sounds perfect. Sadly, it won't work on my Rider v1 :smileysad:

     

    I've installed/uninstalled a couple of times and still no luck - the Rider just freezes on the splash screen. I don't have any other 3rd party stuff on there.

     

    Any ideas how I might get this working? I've got a 12 day trip to the Pyrenees coming up and a huge route all planned out in Google Maps/Earth...Overleap could save me a million extra stops to say "Waypoint visited"!

     

    Thanks, Rob.

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    6 June 2012, 08:56


    Robster_UK wrote:

    the Rider just freezes on the splash screen.


    It should work on Rider 1...

    What you describe sounds more like a broken filesystem/TomTom installation, which sometimes can happen if you disconnect your TomTom not the "safe" way (using the little gray and green icon besides the clock on the lower right of your Windows screen) or it crashes or so.

    To fix it, have a look at this posting by Traylaw: http://discussions.tomtom.com/t5/forums/forumtopicprintpage/board-id/XL_XXL_VIA/message-id/17278
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    6 June 2012, 13:03

    I understand what you are talking about but your idea has been addressed with the downloadable leap button.  You can also delete the waypoint if missed.  Anyway would you wanted want a missile to act the way you suggest.  I could hear the missile logic now I know you program me to hit the military outpost in the city center but I thought the Red Cross building would be OK.  Waypoint can be used for refueling and ... coming close will not get you there

     

    However to address your concern maybe tomtom could have the option to have a leeway of 2 - 300 miles radius of a waypoint.  That way if you enter a state with your waypoint it will not tell you to turn around

     

    Just my thoughts 

     

    p.s.  I would not want a gps that gets me to within 30 miles of my waypoint.  Hell I may miss happy hour at the bar trying to find it before I continue my route

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    7 June 2012, 01:33

    HI Joghurt

     

    Thanks for your quick reply...even to an old thread!

     

    Ok well I followed the instructions you suggested and went through all the steps. No card errors, but reinstalled the application anyway.

     

    The problem is still the same. Once I install Overleap, the Rider freezes on the startup splash screen. Remove the overleap installation and it's fine again.

     

    Oh well, I'll just have to do it manually I guess.

     

    Thanks!

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    25 January 2015, 19:03

    I wrote to TomTom last year formally stating that 'Marking a Waypoint as visited' was a serious risk. It can be forseen that this function will be used live, as it is not always possible to safely stop and use the commands nor is it always possible to pass over the waypoint.

    It takes 8 presses, a wait and 2 more presses on my XXL to 'Mark as visited!

    They fobbed me off.

    Seeing that this is an old problem and 'Overleap' does what I/we need I tried Overleap on my XXL.

    Security on my Win8.1 PC blocked the installation so I used the tip to extract the zip file to my TomTom.

    I exctracted to the root of my TomTom.

    The Overleap button appeared proving that at least some of Overleap was being run by the XXL, but the button did nothing.

    Any suggestions on how to get my XXL to run the whole of 'Overleap'?

    Also keep badgering TomTom. They are a European company and by law must deal with 'forseen misuse' of their product. Namely it absolutely certain that many users will use the 'Mark as visited' feature while driving or lose their navigation aid completely.

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