How to avoid single track roads


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Its been a while since I visited the forum. My TT6000 is up to date with maps/traffic/and "safety Cams" I have forgotten how to avoid certain roads from route planning. I want to exclude single track roads from being a desired route. The single track roads are more like farm roads but classed as public highways. Basically I want to avoid the distraction of making a manual re-route when the Fastest route includes single track roads. It should be noted that these roads are narrow with overtaking places for opposing traffic but I just cant remember how to exclude these roads. I am a firm believer of KISS .... Keep It So Simple.

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There have been no meaningful firmware updates for considerably more than half a year. TomTom is "investigating" the single track road issue and new firmware promised for this year may or may not fix the issue. There is not an "avoid single track road" setting but based on reports here it's not really clear if the unit even knows which roads are single track anyhow.
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It is also interesting, how one would define a "single track" road. As long as bi-directional traffic is allowed, can't really call it to single track. Especially if you can fetch 2 Minis next to each other 🙂 Will see what they come up with. It was told that they are looking into specific routes that we users reported, in order to figure out the root cause (historic data, routing algo issue, etc.).
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Single track means single track! Like brexit means brexit 😃. Obviously a single track CAN be used in either direction but just because 2 bicycles can pass does not throw doubt onto its single track status. I am tired of being routed off the main A96 in Nairn when driving to Inverness and being told to go up a one way street only to then have to do a turn left back on to a very busy A96
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Would it not fix this issue (at least in the UK) if one could have an option to avoid any rural road that wasn't classed as an A or B road? Or maybe a prompt at the route-planning stage to say something like, "Your route includes unclassified roads. Would you like an alternative?"
This is a real problem for me when towing the caravan. If there was a desktop app to pre-plan an A (B) roads only route I would buy it.
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It would really make this unit far more user friendly to some of us if we could avoid roads which are clearly not suitable for towed vehicles and large motorhomes.I would have thought some kind of user input similar to map share could help to brig this about.
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It makes you think doesn't it - we can navigate the solar system with our machines to an incredible degree of accuracy and yet the leading sat nav manufacturers cannot even guide us a tiny fraction of that distance without sending us along some stupid route that probably no-one using an old paper map would ever have chosen.
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I still believe that the issue is with the IQ routes feature, which can't be disabled. I'm pretty sure that the math adds up. When they add up the travel times at those road sections, on paper, it is faster. But in reality, due to all the stoppings at the junctions and so, it takes some longer and more inconvenient. Only could prove this if there was an option to disable IQ routes...
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big accident on the M25 near clacket lane services signs showing an hour wait Tom Tom took me off I thought fantastic felt very superior 🙂

But I then ended up in 18 miles of hell single track after single track ,having to back up or the car I was trying to pass backing up time and time again I cannot tell you what it was like ,if I had known I would have sat it out and relaxed......its so simple no unnamed roads B roads only as the minimum
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Zsolt wrote:

I still believe that the issue is with the IQ routes feature, which can't be disabled. I'm pretty sure that the math adds up. When they add up the travel times at those road sections, on paper, it is faster. But in reality, due to all the stoppings at the junctions and so, it takes some longer and more inconvenient. Only could prove this if there was an option to disable IQ routes...

Well. if TomTom is actually taking this issue seriously and i'm not convinced they are, they would surely have an asnwer to this question. TomTom - have you got your power lead plugged in or have you gone back to sleep?
Just got back from a great holiday in Wales, you would not believe the number of unclassified roads the TomTom can find, being unclassified they have the National Speed Limit so of course you can drive 10 miles along them at 60 mph to save one minute off the journey time if you used A roads ...... NOT!!!!
Interestingly Google maps usually sticks to the A roads
I'm currently in Madeira and this is a nightmare, I have now dumped the TomTom and use Google maps which always takes me on a sensible route. Come on Tom Tom, if Google can do it why carnt you?
Here's another to feedback, if it will make any difference?
9.30 am today. Route Tean (Staffordshire) to Stafford, fastest route selected, as always.
Follow A521(2?) as far as left turn into Creswell Road. Follow that road until Hilderstone then use B5066 (Sandon Road) which carries on to Stafford. No, not TomTom, turn left off B5066 on to Within Lane. Very narrow and slow road (the clue is in lane!) until A518 where a right turn is required to proceed into Stafford. The A518 is busy both ways and takes 5 or more minutes until it is possible to negotiate both lanes onto the A518. If the B5066 had been fully navigated Stafford would have been reached probably about 10 minutes earlier than it did.:8
BrianE wrote:

Would it not fix this issue (at least in the UK) if one could have an option to avoid any rural road that wasn't classed as an A or B road? Or maybe a prompt at the route-planning stage to say something like, "Your route includes unclassified roads. Would you like an alternative?"


Excellent idea - so why haven't they done it? ARGH!!!
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RikRDC wrote:


BrianE wrote:

Would it not fix this issue (at least in the UK) if one could have an option to avoid any rural road that wasn't classed as an A or B road? Or maybe a prompt at the route-planning stage to say something like, "Your route includes unclassified roads. Would you like an alternative?"

Excellent idea - so why haven't they done it? ARGH!!!


Anyone from TomTom care to answer this question?
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This issue has been going on for years. don't think it will ever be fixed.
TT have our hard earned money, and are not interested or care about it now, they will come out with loads of poor reasons why it can't be done.

I will ill be very surprised if we get a answer.
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Tomtom seem to totally ignore people who ask for any updates or information on improvements....they probably don't know how to sort this issue or many of the others that people have asked for...shocking customer service
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St8v8 wrote:

I'm currently in Madeira and this is a nightmare...


Costa Rica.
I had one of these anomalies last month while going from Swanage in Dorset to Bristol a route that my Go400 handle very well except this one oddity...

...the route should, in view of light traffic, should have taken me along the A35 and onto the A31 but looking at this map I arrive at the A35 from the direction of “Sugar Hill” and at this point I’d been following a VW van all the way from Wareham further south off this map.

Now the VW van continued along the A35 and my TomTom directs me into “Cow Drove”, a single track road. So I’ve been taken off the A35 (remember no traffic, other than the VW van) and back onto the A35 1.4 Km further up the road, a saving of 300 Metres but adding 2 unnecessary right turns into the journey.


When I arrived back at the A35 from the Cow Drove the VW van had just sailed by and had it not been for light traffic or anything coming the other way in that single track road, God knows how long that diversion would have taken.
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Perhaps you and other people on this thread would like to consider voting on my recent route-planning thread so I can pass the information back to TomTom as I told them I would in a recent support message. If you want to do that, you'll find my thread here.
Hi, on the single track roads debate. "Question" isn't a single track road any length of road which has a "minimum" width of around 3m at any point on it's length? Then navigation becomes as simple as avoid all roads less than 3m in width unless the destination is somewhere on the single track road.

Now I've just bought the latest 620 Professional which taking is account of the width of my vehicle, to avoid roads I can't get down. Now to my mind the "navigation algorithm" must know the width of a road in order to make that decision, so give is the option to avoid roads less than a specified number of metres/yards wide.

On a trip to and from from Wells-Next-The-Sea, in Norfolk I was directed down a single track road on at least three occasions, whilst using the Truck settings.

I'll probably be returning the 620 Pro as unfit for purpose.

Any feedback would be helpful. Best regards
Just came back from Newquay to Tavistock and although I know the way using main roads thought I'd give Tom Tom a chance to show me it's potential for improving my journey.

It doesn't have any. 50 mins to go 20 miles. I know this is Devon and not the autobahn but the roads it took me on were ridiculous esp in a VW Transporter.

I'll be keeping it just for back up navigation.
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This for me is the most annoying feature of satellite navigation systems and I fail to see why they can't solve the problem. Also, don't think the major competitor's products are any better and in fact they are actually worse. Mine used to regularly try to direct me down lay-bys (!!) and single-tracks roads, couldn't find some addresses, either by road names or postcodes, gave very poor directions at major roundabouts (road names instead of road numbers) and as for traffic reports, it was a complete joke. The only thing better on the competitor's product was the really responsive touch screen. At least my GO6200 has live traffic without needing a mobile phone and can be pre-programmed from any internet-connected PC or mobile phone. If TT would fix the narrow roads issue (easily accomplished in the UK I would have thought, by providing an option to avoid unclassified roads), then that would be a massive improvement and a major selling advantage over the competition. TT are your listening or are you still asleep at the wheel?
I keep finding myself on Tractor routes and no way does the shortest distance x permitted maximum speed produce the quickest time. Small roads should have the speed reduced to maximum tractor speed. I would prefer that on a route of over 10 miles only major roads are used.

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